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normanhurst
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PostSubject: What presenters do you favour    Mon 03 Sep 2012, 09:13



Time and again as I read these pages of differing ‘ideas, and takes’ on various topics, I’m often surprised at the many sometimes scathing remarks passed on the presenters of programs such as ‘Coast’ i.e. Neil Oliver, Time Team’s Tony Robinson… and Sharma etc . My level of knowledge is obviously of a much less lower standard, and so I find them very good. But there are one or two that I find rather hard going and somewhat patronising, or maybe just a bit too high brow.

What is it that is objectionable to these people, and who would you favour as replacements…

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PostSubject: Re: What presenters do you favour    Mon 03 Sep 2012, 16:49

That's the problem, Norm, it's almost impossible to please everyone. I'll bet you watch programmes featuring topics about which you know a lot and get quite irritated by either factual errors or oversimplifications.

There's a difference of course between content and presentation style and the latter is entirely subject to personal taste. I find the 'breathless awe in hushed tones' style infuriating and since it appears to be being encouraged by some production teams, there's more and more of it about. What was originally a natural manner of speech by some presenters has become so pronounced as to now be a caricature. Michael Woods and Bettany Hughes are serial offenders.

As to content, I would guess that the complaints that have been expressed here are largely relating to those instances when one interpretation is represented as the only one and that interpretation being more firmly grounded in the evidence than is really the case. Usually they are deriving that explanation from the work of one individual (without any acknowledgement) or from one theoretical stance but omit to reflect any of the counter explanations of which there usually several. Those who propound their personal views and interpretations are fine by me as long as it is clear that that's what they are doing. often they are the most stimulating. I am naturally not even considering the Von Daniken school, they will be consigned to the same circle as Ms Gregory (according to opinions expressed here).

It is however probably unfair to pillory those presenters who are obliged to deliver other peoples' scripts but one could question their integrity if they are genuine historians and archaeologists and are prepared to spout crap for cash.














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PostSubject: Re: What presenters do you favour    Tue 04 Sep 2012, 23:51

In the good ol' days of early Tv documentary progs were shown rather like fillum shorts when we saw little or nothing of the narrator. Now we have personality stamping ground documentaries with cameras trained more on the presenter and less on what we could be looking at with voice-over factual content. I really don't care how the presenter feels about something - how I long for this age of emotions hanging out to drag itself painfully away.

I recently met an insipid girl whose ambition it is to be a presenter - Of what, I asked. Apparently it didn't matter; suffice to say she is currently working in a caravan sorting invoices on line. I hope it doesn't happen but who can tell? Her uncle is in 'Event Management.' I decided to ask no more questions.
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PostSubject: Re: What presenters do you favour    Wed 05 Sep 2012, 04:21

I can't think when it became the done thing for a documentary to be more about the presenter rather than the content? Was it Shama who introduced it or was it earlier?

Richard Attenborough always does a good doc and places himself secondary to the subject.
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PostSubject: Re: What presenters do you favour    Wed 05 Sep 2012, 04:26

I think you mean David… Richard is the actor.
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PostSubject: Re: What presenters do you favour    Wed 05 Sep 2012, 04:35

God yes, thanks Norman. I didn't even realise that I had typed the wrong name, too early and another coffee is needed.
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PostSubject: Re: What presenters do you favour    Wed 12 Sep 2012, 00:46

Earlier this evening I watched the first of Neil Oliver's new series 'Vikings'. Not at all bad for a general interest programme I thought, at least in terms of content. It's very unusual for programmes here to even acknowledge that there is a Scandinavian pre history despite its richness so it was refreshing to see it mentioned, albeit briefly.
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PostSubject: Re: What presenters do you favour    Wed 12 Sep 2012, 04:51

Thanks for that ferval, I shall look out for it.

I note there is a BBC doc from 2001 by Julian Richards called Blood of the Vikings, has anyone seen it and is it worth watching?
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PostSubject: Re: What presenters do you favour    Wed 12 Sep 2012, 06:00

It's worth watching - the DNA survey which formed the basis of the series dispelled a few myths regarding Viking numbers and concentrations of population. Post dating identity is a tricky business and often reveals more about modern aspiration and current myth than it does actual history. The series was a good illustration of this.
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PostSubject: Re: What presenters do you favour    Wed 12 Sep 2012, 09:38

Thanks Nordmann, I'll download it and have a watch then.
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