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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Tue 12 Jul 2016, 19:49

As I followed my friend Ferval...wrong thread too... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Thu 14 Jul 2016, 12:48

For anyone with a spare few minutes to contemplate the meaning of life;



The Darwin Awards

( otherwise known as the idiotic ways in which human beings can kill themselves )
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Thu 14 Jul 2016, 16:54

Still, Trike,
“If you’re living in the past and dreading tomorrow, you’re most probably pi**ing on today.”
 
Carpe diem
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Thu 18 Aug 2016, 21:44

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I'm sorry but, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

US pastor Tony Perkins, who believes natural disasters are sent by God to punish gay people, has fled his flooded home in a canoe.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/christian-home-destroyed-flood-tony-perkins-natural-disasters-gods-punishment-homosexuality-a7196786.html

"This is a flood of near-biblical proportions," he said in an interview with the Family Research Council. "We had to escape from our home Saturday by canoe. We had about 10 feet of water at the end of our driveway. Our house flooded, a few of our cars flooded."

Tut, tut, didn't he have an ark ready rather than all those cars?


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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Fri 28 Oct 2016, 14:46

Halloween on Monday.

Wistman's Wood on Dartmoor looks really spooky.

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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Fri 28 Oct 2016, 15:01

"Black Shuck" as reported in 1577:

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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Fri 28 Oct 2016, 15:56

Slains Castle, Aberdeenshire, as it appeared in the 1890s when Bram Stoker visited the area:



and as it appears today:

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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Sun 30 Oct 2016, 23:20

The naff end of a local town High Street where few shoppers make an effort to visit has suddenly sprung to life because an enterprising family have opened a Belgian Waffle shop. It has been packed since opening and I doubt they could cope with take away for a while. I reminds me of a shop I saw abroad called 'Just Desserts' which is only  take away and was always busy. No one seems to be counting calories as  we are pressed to. The dessert selling shops in Turkey really are a delight........
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Sun 20 Nov 2016, 22:36

The Takahanga marae (Maori meeting house) at Kaikoura were very impressive with their response to the 7.8 earthquake a week ago, feeding hundreds of tourists and locals with 10,000 meals and 1700 emergency food packages and providing places to sleep. They served their "last supper" today.  1.5 tonnes of crayfish were served when people's freezers couldn't be powered and people donated the left-over food in them.  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11751819 

Kaikoura's economy is very dependent on whaling and tourism, and Ngai Tahu is the Maori iwi (tribe) that services the whole of the South Island.  It has been the recipient of a treaty settlement of millions of dollars and has used this money very wisely and grown it a lot, and is a major player in the southern economy. 

It's been a wonderful effort.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Mon 21 Nov 2016, 12:50

Kudos to the same people for their archaeological savvy too, Caro, an incidence of which I found when googling their recent history.

When the Ngati Kuri received permission in the 1980s to rebuild the Takahanga Marae on their site (the scene of an 1828 battle which had destroyed their settlement there) they found the 450 year old remains of the foundations of their original meeting place destroyed in that battle. Building of the new "standing place" was deferred by them until a proper excavation and preservation of these foundations could be completed. The new building was then changed in its design so that it would not interfere with the preserved sub-structure and effectively now serves as protection for these remains.

I also like that they have preserved the privacy of the Takahanga Marae and have banned incidental tourism from wandering in and around their locale despite their acknowledged dependency on that industry (apparently if one is polite enough to request an invitation then one gets rather more than just a guided tour but also a lot of history thrown in to boot).

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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Mon 21 Nov 2016, 21:39

It's general to ask permission or await invitation before visiting a marae.  There are protocols of welcoming and order in the procedures.  I remember my son and I following tourist signs to Parihaka, the site of a historic stand-off between peaceful protesting Maori and avenging Pakeha, and quite a well-known historical event at least in recent years.  We were given friendly waves while we were there and when I asked if I could take photos, I was told I could.  But when I returned to the Information Centre in nearby New Plymouth and wondered why they didn't have information about this place, they growled at us and said we shouldn't have gone there, despite the brown tourist signs that in New Zealand at least signify a place to visit. 

But at most marae you wouldn't go there without going through the formal channels.  Some schools etc have "marae" on them so they can perform official powhiri (welcomes), though I did read a few years ago where some Maori were querying these.  I think that is just the more radical and political Maori and I haven't heard of complaints in recent years.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Mon 05 Dec 2016, 12:23

What is going on? Minette and Catty will no doubt pop up later - Ghosts of Res His Past.

I do hope so.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Mon 05 Dec 2016, 17:31

Minette is still suffering a decline after she was upstaged by Philipa as the chief mourner of the nun's bones found under the carpark. She'll never recover from the shock that she wasn't one with the greatest crush on a 600 year old skeleton, nor that it wasn't her that got to weep, wail, pull hair and beat breast over the grave site on international telly.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Mon 05 Dec 2016, 17:35

Ah - alas, 'tis all too true.


"...Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no; it is an ever-fixed mark,
That looks on tempests, and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come;
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom..."
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Mon 05 Dec 2016, 22:49

I suppose we must all be grateful that Temps didn't take Swahili as her main subject....... still, on reflection I bet they probably don't have as many poems.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Tue 06 Dec 2016, 04:11

Wise people then P. But it wouldn't matter whether it is English or Swahili, poetry is completely lost on me.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Wed 07 Dec 2016, 07:07

Over on the Rant thread, ferval posted this:







Wonderful tapestry - Stirling Castle? I have to go there in 2017 (DV). I  also want to visit Dunbar where Mary Stuart apparently spent an ecstatic few days with Bothwell before everything went even more pear-shaped than it already was. And Lochleven - I cannot believe I have never been there except in my imagination.

I love those stripey tights. Who's the bloke wearing them, ferval? Is it James IV, or V?

PS Had a massive five-minute huff about my poetry quoting. I offer a nice bit of culture to you all and get mocked for my pains. You'll all be sorry. Just you wait...



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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Wed 07 Dec 2016, 09:54

Here's some more about the tapestries Temp:  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunt_of_the_Unicorn

and here:


http://www.stirlingcastle.gov.uk/discover/highlights/the-stirling-tapestries/


I'm usually a bit sniffy about recreations of the past but the palace at Stirling is I feel is very effective in conjuring up an impression of a renaissance palace in its pomp, it's the impact of all the vivid colour as opposed to the faded splendour to which we are accustomed.

The 'heads are great fun as well, both the replacements:




nd the originals:





Have you been to Linlithgow in your M, QoS tours? It's another example of the Scottish renaissance style and such a contrast to some of the gloomy old castles. The setting is wonderful and the fountain has been refurbished.




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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Wed 07 Dec 2016, 12:00

Hurrah Temp, our favourite philosopher is coming back on the telly.


Philomena is now on a festive mission to track down the true meaning of Christmas, and find out exactly what it is he wants. It's an insightful documentary which takes her on a journey from pagan winter festivals and the nativity story, via "Sir Charles Dickings" all the way up to today's obsession with Santa.

https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/cunk_on/episodes/1/2/
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Thu 15 Dec 2016, 09:18

@ferval wrote:
Hurrah Temp, our favourite philosopher is coming back on the telly.


Philomena is now on a festive mission to track down the true meaning of Christmas, and find out exactly what it is he wants. It's an insightful documentary which takes her on a journey from pagan winter festivals and the nativity story, via "Sir Charles Dickings" all the way up to today's obsession with Santa.


Hurrah indeed! Thanks for alerting me to that - I might have missed it.

I wonder if our Philomena will discuss the Haggadic midrash interpretation of the nativity narratives with expert Jeffrey John? I bet she does!

Oh goody.

Jeffrey John: Yes, the birth narratives in Luke and Matthew's Gospels are quite obviously examples of Haggadic midrash - midrashic interpretation being an attempt to penetrate into the spirit of the text, to examine the text from all sides, to derive meanings not immediately obvious, to illustrate the future by appealing to the past. You do not ask of midrash, "Did it all actually happen?" It is more useful to consider, "What was there about this birth that caused it to be incorporated into the midrash tradition?"

Philomena: You mean they made it all up then? That's an absolute bloody disgrace - someone should report the pair of them.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Fri 30 Dec 2016, 14:26

@ferval wrote:

Philomena is now on a festive mission to track down the true meaning of Christmas, and find out exactly what it is he wants. It's an insightful documentary which takes her on a journey from pagan winter festivals and the nativity story, via "Sir Charles Dickings" all the way up to today's obsession with Santa.


Just watched it - really disappointing. Never thought I'd say that about our Philomena, but...

The best bits were the children she interviewed - they were  brilliant. There is some hope for the future then.

I did like the question she posed to the "food expert" about Tudor Christmas feasting though. Perhaps MM can give a better answer than he did. Actually, I don't think he gave an answer - he just mumbled something about them not really eating peacock.

PC: What goes with peacock? What sort of gravy?
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Fri 30 Dec 2016, 16:35

A ginger sauce seems the correct late 14th century accommpaniment in England (from 'Forme of Cury', circa 1385):

Pecockys and pertrigchis schul be yperboyld & lardyd & osted. þe sauce schal be gynger.

Or if you want something more sophisticated and in the continetal style there's this (from 'Libre del Coch', Spain, 1520):

TO MAKE SAUCE FOR PEACOCK. For five dishes, take a pound of toasted almonds, and grind them well in a mortar, and take the livers of the peacocks or capons or hens, which should be cooked in a pot, and grind them with the almonds, and then take a crustless piece of bread which should be soaked in orange juice or white vinegar, and the bread must be toasted; and then grind it all together with the livers and with the almonds; and after everything is ground, thin this sauce with two egg yolks for each dish, and then strain it through a woolen cloth with the said fine spices; and when it has been strained, put it into the pot with the sugar, and taste it or sample it for sourness, which should be moderate, and then cook it until it is done to a turn; and when it is cooked, prepare dishes, and put sugar and cinnamon upon the sauce.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Fri 30 Dec 2016, 17:18

It was rather limp, I preferred her bits in Charlie Brooker's 2016 Wipe.

This is sure get taken down very soon, the Brian Cox segment towards the end made me smile.




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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Sat 31 Dec 2016, 12:46

At last!  2016 can go out with one very good thing.

China to ban ivory trade by the end of 2017

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/dec/30/china-ban-ivory-trade-2017-elephants-wwf
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Thu 12 Jan 2017, 20:22

Just seen an excellent piece on The One Show about London's lost rivers and wanted to have a little rave about it. They had this chap on who organises what sounds like fascinating tours around lost rivers in the capital.

http://www.londonslostrivers.com/


During the short but interesting programme segment, Arthur Smith and Paul Tilling (the author of London's Lost Rivers) were filmed climbing down into the London sewage system to show us the infamous River Fleet. It's still there all right. The bowels of London, Tilling called these underground waterways: some apparently moving rather sluggishly, but others, like the Fleet which we viewed, still remarkably swift-flowing.

Some of the lost rivers have great names: I particularly like Mutton Brook.

What I didn't know is that there are "lost rivers" flowing underground in many of England's cities and towns: the programme mentioned Bradford Beck and also rivers in Bristol and Sheffield which are being "restored". There has been a very successful project in Rochford: the River Roch, which disappeared under the town's tram network around 1900, is now a "proper" river again.

http://www.rochdale.gov.uk/planning-and-building/regenerating-the-borough/river-roch/Pages/default.aspx


The River Roch, which has been hidden underneath Rochdale town centre for more than a century, has been uncovered, alongside its historic bridge, as part of a wider £250m regeneration programme.​

The bridge was built in the medieval period and expanded as the town grew, with sections dating back to the Regency, Georgian and Restoration periods.

By the early 1900s, the bridge and river had been covered over and they’ve been hidden from view ever since. But ​now they're on display once again, offering visitors a stunning historical attraction and an attractive place to sit and watch the world go by.

As well as giving visitors a glimpse of Rochdale’s glorious past, the project reduces the flood risk in the town centre. The opening will also re-naturalise the river and help attract new wildlife into the area. Brown trout, K​ingfisher and Pied Wagtail​s have all been spotted.​​



I think this is wonderful - hence my putting it on the Rave thread. I don't know why I find "old" rivers so fascinating, but I do. I'm glad so many are being "restored".



PS This writer, U.A. Fanthorpe, has (sadly) been mocked elsewhere on Res His, but, as Arthur Smith read her poem Rising Damp (about London's lost rivers) on The One Show this evening, I shall take the risk and quote it here. This is where Eng. Lit. and History collide - but happily so, I think. Well, at least I hope so.


RISING DAMP, U. A. Fanthorpe

'A river can sometimes be diverted but is a very hard thing to lose altogether.'
(Paper to the Auctioneers' Institute, 1907)

At our feet they lie low,
The little fervent underground
Rivers of London

Effra, Graveney, Flacon, Quaggy,
Wandle, Walbrook, Tyburn, Fleet

Whose names are disfigured,
Frayed, effaced.

There are the Magogs that chewed the clay
To the basin that London nestles in.
These are the currents that chiselled the city,
That washed the clothes and turned the mills,
Where children drank and salmon swam
And wells were holy.

They have gone under.
Boxed, like the magician's assistant.
Buried alive in earth.
Forgotten, like the dead.

They return spectrally after heavy rain,
Confounding suburban gardens. They inflitrate
Chronic bronchitis statistics. A silken
Slur haunts dwellings by shrouded
Watercourses, and is taken
For the footing of the dead.

Being of our world, they will return
(Westbourne, caged at Sloane Square,
Will jack from his box),
Will deluge cellars, detonate manholes,
Plant effluent on our faces,
Sink the city.

Effra, Graveney, Falcon, Quaggy,
Wandle, Walbrook, Tyburn, Fleet

It is the other rivers that lie
Lower, that touch us only in dreams
That never surface. We feel their tug
As a dowser's rod bends to the surface below

Phlegethon, Acheron, Lethe, Styx.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Thu 12 Jan 2017, 20:47

Ursula Andress Fanthorpe isn't half bad when she sticks to aquatic urban geography. It's only when she wanders into the drunken Persians bearing gifts category that she gets a bit iffy.

I was on a tour of London's underground rivers some years ago (they're not lost) and we clambered down into several. The Fleet was one, accessed legally through a manhole around Holborn (the Fleet being the "bourne" in its name). Others were slightly less than legal, I remember thinking, and one wasn't a river at all but a rather smelly part of what may have been originally excavated in Roman times as a cloaca but now bears stock exchange poo down to the Thames sewage line that runs under Thames Street (though used to go straight into the river).

It can't have been the same bloke doing the tour - unless Talling is pushing on 90 or so. Fascinating stuff, right enough, and tremendously exciting as we took turns doing nixer to keep an eye out for the rozzers as we hopped down manholes under the stewardship of our host doing a passable imitation of a paratroop commander ushering his charges out the plane door.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Fri 13 Jan 2017, 09:52

I had to look up "nixer". I have learnt a new word.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Fri 13 Jan 2017, 20:40

For me too, Temperance...

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/nixer

Kind regards, Paul.
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Sat 14 Jan 2017, 01:38

And for me three ...
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Yesterday at 10:33

My Sunday paper's review of this week's upcoming TV included this:




If only.......
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PostSubject: Re: The Daily Rave   Yesterday at 16:22

When I was working in London I remember walking on the "Green Way" which is on top of part of the sewerage system that Mr Bazalgette diverted some of the "lost" rivers too.  I think the Tyburn flows through the gardens of Buckingham Palace though I don't know if it's culveted now - have to ask next time I'm invited there for a cuppa (that's my slight attempt at humour).
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