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Gilgamesh of Uruk
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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 00:40

Must say I prefer this attitude to the problem - Diana Lamplugh gave us some training about 20 years ago when I was a councillor. I think the other lot are using scare tactics to drum up trade.
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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 08:02

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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 08:29

And "silliness" is surely not appropriate in this discussion.

Having just read what has been happening to gay men in Syria - and I wish I hadn't - I am no longer in the mood for trying to keep things light-hearted.



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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 13:34

Nordmann...you have avoided answering the questions below which impinge on our differences of opinion regarding  Stereotyping vs profiling....which support my position and detract from yours. What are your answers...yes or no...huh? huh? Answer up Mr. Timex. (That's from the old Timex ad..."It takes a lickin and keeps on tickin"

Ms Rourke? ....zzzz

Here is a quick test:  Do you think a woman could ever pose a threat to your personal safety?  How about a senior citizen?  How about a child?  If your answer is “no” to any of these three scenarios, let alone all three scenarios, this will be an eye-opening presentation.
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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 13:50

But the answers are rather obvious, I thought, and actually don't have much bearing on violent extremism such as was being discussed here before this diversion you have introduced, Parallax.

Of course a woman can pose a threat to one's personal safety. Senior citizens have also been known to be dangerous, some in very well documented incidents. Small children are less of a threat in the same sense, though in some parts of the world they can be an extreme threat, be it as soldiers or suicide bombers. Children as in youths or young teenagers also are potentially dangerous, as even the stereotypical view agrees with.

However I didn't find the presentation as eye-opening as all that - realtors might face some dodgy people in the course of their job but have probably as much chance of being killed by extremists as anyone else. In fact at the moment cartoonists would seem to be running a much greater risk than realtors in that department. But if the good folk down in Dallas Trouble Spotters teach people to use profiling skills with intelligence and not rely on stereotypical assessment then fair play to them. Though why you've decided to promote them here defeats me.
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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 15:12

@Parallax wrote:
Answer up Mr. Timex. (That's from the old Timex ad..."It takes a lickin and keeps on tickin. "


Oh, for goodness' sake, Parallax, do shut up. Do you really think you are giving nordmann "a lickin'"? You are just making a total and complete arse of yourself, and we are all too polite here to tell you so.

I'm sorry: I do not like being impolite, but, having had several glasses of wine at lunch, and having argued at length with someone just as obtuse as you, I really have had enough.

I shall probably delete this later - but then again, I may not.
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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 16:24

Well, I'm just confused as how we've ended up here, talking about personal safety courses. I'm going to make you worry even more about my personal safety, less than 2% of our police force are armed response officers permitted to bear firearms, they are obviously not all on duty at any one time and they do not routinely carry guns except in airports.

What a shame you don't know know any Muslims, Pax, that's your loss. Do you know any gays or socialists or Marxists or pacifists, or moles come to that? If you don't, can I recommend you correct that omission as soon as possible, expanding your social circle can only be enriching.
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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 16:38

But he ought change his trousers first. I think his are scat damp from laughing at a misconception all of his own making. Yesterday, we had to make a long ride through countryside and I saw a tall hide for bird watchers - twitchers is their nick name here. I thought of you  then Pax. Sat all alone somewhere people twitching. If you had later met the motley crew with whom I was doing business you would have had a breakdown. Somehow I survived the ordeal - and had a few laughs even. I bet not one of them rushed home to oil a gun after meeting me, either. This is all too, too sad.
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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 18:12

And why keep on about the gay moles?

Personally I blame it all on the gay badgers:



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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 18:21

I was about to stop looking at & posting on this thread, now you have introduced a weapon which I consider far more dangerous than a gun - Harry bleeding Hill. Can't stand the man. Just lead me to the "stop watching this thread" button.
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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 18:29

Well I wouldn't worry too much about it Gil .... that youtube clip refuses to play, so you can remain Harry Hill free.

Only ... who will groom the badgers for the Badger Parade?


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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 18:45



Vivent (is that the plural subjunctive form of vivre???) et les blaireaux et les taupes - le plus gai le better.
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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 19:19



et aussi

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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Tue 03 Feb 2015, 20:00

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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Wed 04 Feb 2015, 15:34

@nordmann wrote:
But the answers are rather obvious, I thought, and actually don't have much bearing on violent extremism such as was being discussed here before this diversion you have introduced, Parallax.

Of course a woman can pose a threat to one's personal safety. Senior citizens have also been known to be dangerous, some in very well documented incidents. Small children are less of a threat in the same sense, though in some parts of the world they can be an extreme threat, be it as soldiers or suicide bombers. Children as in youths or young teenagers also are potentially dangerous, as even the stereotypical view agrees with.

However I didn't find the presentation as eye-opening as all that - realtors might face some dodgy people in the course of their job but have probably as much chance of being killed by extremists as anyone else. In fact at the moment cartoonists would seem to be running a much greater risk than realtors in that department. But if the good folk down in Dallas Trouble Spotters teach people to use profiling skills with intelligence and not rely on stereotypical assessment then fair play to them. Though why you've decided to promote them here defeats me.

You are just a word processor nordmann, like an attorney. You know very well that men passing by older women automatically write them off as not threatening. The same goes for the other two questions. That is stereotyping. There are other examples also...like we assume all bulldogs are dangerous. It's done by knowledge supplied by the history of the subject. That's stereotyping. The same applies to sheep and as the black goat of this forum, you know that. Of course, having gotten a bit more familiar with your method of operating, I know you would find an instance where the questions may be true 99% of the time and try to nullify it and weasel out. You just plain waddle in your own crap.

Temperance, like Clark Gable said, "Frankly my dear...I don't give a damn". You wanted me to stay now you want me to go and I shall so oblige. Others who feel the same, read above.  For any of you who do not have that feeling, thank you and so long.
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PostSubject: Re: Je suis Charlie   Wed 04 Feb 2015, 16:39

There is a huge difference between assuming a bulldog is dangerous because it is a bulldog and assuming a muslim is dangerous because they are a muslim. Likewise there are reasonable grounds to assume an elderly lady is not threatening whereas a masked man carrying a Kalashnikov and aiming it at you probably is. This could of course be called "stereotyping" but only if you have less respect for the English language than you obviously have for your fellow man.

Bye bye.
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