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PostSubject: Gehlen and the BND   Sun 24 Jul 2016, 22:41

I dont know what happens. Each time that I try to put a link on this message my message is lost including the title...each time the message: mode not specified... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil  ten of times... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
Even a link with wiki gives the same result...
Nordmann? Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

I think this subject will interest Dirk Marinus as we discussed before Gladio and for instance the links between the Dutch government in exile  during WWII and the bridge too far in Arnhem...

And I send first this to add later my links

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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Sun 24 Jul 2016, 22:42

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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Sun 24 Jul 2016, 22:56

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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Sun 24 Jul 2016, 22:57

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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Sun 24 Jul 2016, 22:59

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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Sun 24 Jul 2016, 23:01

But the above source seems a bit...
As you read: "Who we are"
http://tenc.net/editors.html
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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Sun 24 Jul 2016, 23:03

And also this...I give it for what it is worth...

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8595
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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Sun 24 Jul 2016, 23:06

And the documentary that I saw and which sparked the research.
I found it rather boring as it continously gave the facts and nothing else. Nordmann is right when he last in a discussion about history said that a story of only facts is rather boring...

http://www.arte.tv/guide/de/045498-000-A/nazis-im-bnd
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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Sun 24 Jul 2016, 23:16

And for those who understand German:
about secret services, money, Gehlen and Conrad Adenauer: from the French/German channel ARTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tO_-BofiQk


I only started to view the documentary, so I can't say that much yet...
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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Mon 25 Jul 2016, 20:49

PaulRyckier wrote:
And the documentary that I saw and which sparked the research.
I found it rather boring as it continously gave the facts and nothing else. Nordmann is right when he last in a discussion about history said that a story of only facts is rather boring...

http://www.arte.tv/guide/de/045498-000-A/nazis-im-bnd

And for those who understand French and not German: the same in French:
http://www.arte.tv/guide/fr/045498-000-A/agents-troubles
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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Mon 25 Jul 2016, 20:53

Conclusion: The CIA selected Gehlen and Gehlen selected "Die alte Kameraden" among whom a Klaus Barbie...

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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Mon 25 Jul 2016, 22:09

PaulRyckier wrote:
And for those who understand German:
about secret services, money, Gehlen and Conrad Adenauer: from the French/German channel ARTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tO_-BofiQk


I only started to view the documentary, so I can't say that much yet...


For those who don't understand German, but French, here the same in French...
I watched now the whole documentary...
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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Wed 27 Jul 2016, 19:53

About the Octogon documentary.

The CDU of Adenauer was subvented by unknown money from weapon bussiness to rearm West Germany after the cold war had started in 1946. There were links between the CDU, the CIA, the Gehlen BND, the money and gold stolen by the Nazis and stored in Lichtenstein and Schweiz.
But to be honest the SPD seems to have used the same carroussel via Lichtenstein and Schweiz to finance their "Parteikasse" but obviously not with the old Nazi treasure, the BND and the CIA...

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PostSubject: Re: Gehlen and the BND   Wed 27 Jul 2016, 20:46

Paul,

    give me a chance to read through the different links.

And yes this a very interesting topic on what is better known in the circles/business  as the dirty tricks department .

Actually did you know that although Prince Bernard was in England in 1942 he was still writing letters to Adolf Hitler.


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