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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Wed 07 Feb 2018, 19:32

Paul,

  Actually her name was Hannie Schaft and for the English speaking members this Wikipedia link :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannie_Schaft

gives some information.


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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Wed 07 Feb 2018, 19:44

Paul.

When you mentioned "female spies" I realised I passed on some information about Mata Hari.

What I did not mentioned was the fact that she was born in Leeuwarden , same place where I come from< and My grandfather and Mata Hari's ( Gertruda Zelle's) father were good friends.

But although my grandfather ( passed away 1952) sometimes mentioned her name when I was very much younger I never took that much notice.

It was only years later when the name Mata Hari made sense but then it was then to late to ask questions.


The BIG mistake we all make by not asking our parents/grandparents more questions about their younger years.

How I regret now that I  never asked my paternal and maternal grandparents more questions.

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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Wed 07 Feb 2018, 20:17

@Dirk Marinus wrote:

The BIG mistake we all make by not asking our parents/grandparents more questions about their younger years.

Very true, except for me I think that it is only now that I am older and know more, that I  know enough to know what questions I should have asked all those years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Wed 07 Feb 2018, 21:58

Dirk and Meles meles, thank you both for your comments.

But a bit ill this evening, and a bit recovering I wanted to start in full my thread, but now already nearing 11PM in the Benelux, I promise to do it tomorrow evening. Including the moral stance... BTW. Dirk as I assumed already from the time of BBC and now again in War tourism thread too, that you were 7? in Leeuwaarden in 1940 I allude to your intellectual awareness, if you haven't said it, nearly a youngster in his Thirties. And yes Szabo the female spy was the name of her man.


Kind regards to both from Paul.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Thu 08 Feb 2018, 09:52

I'm not sure whether it was earlier on this thread or another thread but before I went base over apex (nearly two months ago now) I mentioned something about having missed a one woman show about the writer/playwright and apparently also a spy, Aphra Behn (sorry I can't copy over the Wikipedia link about her) at the local (to me) theatre last October.  I know in 1688 she wrote "Oroonoko - The Royal Slave" about an African tricked into slavery.  How authentic her story was I cannot say.

I've seen the (now quite old) film "Carve Her Name with Pride" about Violette Szabo a few times on TV now (Virginia McKenna playing Mrs Szabo I think).
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Thu 08 Feb 2018, 13:00

Hope Paul and Nielsen(?) are both feeling a little better today.

I wonder if ferval is poorly too? She has not been around for ages.

A glass of Sanatagen Tonic Wine for all Res Hissers who are under the weather.




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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Thu 08 Feb 2018, 13:23

My aunt used to drink that by the tumbler-full. I'd be fearful that it would make me look like her ... or those two on the bottle. Mind you I wouldn't want to be associated with the average guzzler of this either, although I gather you do get more kick for your money:



I'd much prefer some of this:

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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Thu 08 Feb 2018, 13:35

Tumbler-full? Down here they drink it by the tanker-full (not me, I hasten to add).

Yes, they look a really loathsome pair, don't they? Très smug. But her lot cannot be cast in that goodly a heritage if she is knocking back the Sanatagen Tonic Plonk as if there is no tomorrow. I reckon he's a control freak in the marriage, and he just lets her have the STW to keep her quiet and happy.


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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Fri 09 Feb 2018, 09:43

So here starts a  fest of watching  daft things you can do better than someone else when it freezes over; a good feet up, hot bovril time of waiting for the prat falls - and hoping only their pride is bruised. There ought be a games for things to do on desert hot sands; bare foot run? Time is young but the future offers daft things to do on the moon but alas I'll not be around to gawp and watch people on my team get a gallant 23rd mention for the one leg hop race there...... I wonder what cycling would be like on the moon - in a drome even? Veritcal overtaking? Oh yes, bring on moon sports.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Fri 09 Feb 2018, 13:51

Been to physio clinic again today and going back in early March.  The lady I see said she was quite pleased with my progress though the one reaching up my back is still restricted though she says there has been some improvement.  She has given me some strengthening exercises this time.

Did I mention I went back to British Sign Language classes on Monday though I wimped out of French conversation on Tuesday because of snow?  The lady leading the sign language class had us revising signs using the index finger of the dominant hand including the one for 'bossy' which I misheard as 'botty' (childish word  for bottom as in the sense of buttocks in case anyone whose first language is not English doesn't know). I hope I'm not becoming hard of hearing though if so BSL might be an appropriate skill to learn.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Fri 09 Feb 2018, 14:31

LiR, you must be better than this bod:

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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Fri 09 Feb 2018, 23:00

Well, the local by- elections are over - for now. Felt rather sorry for the Labour candidate in the one ward - she actually polled fewer votes than "Spoiled papers". Not too sorry though - after all, they called the election!
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Sun 11 Feb 2018, 18:31

Sunny start but icy underfoot - feeding birds I almost did a triple sad-cow followed by a triple whoops. So back to the sofa to watch it done a bit better. I gather none of you watches these sports[ the men's tea down the big drain is over. Someone won by 1000th of a second.......I expect they make ever such good clocks in Korea.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Mon 12 Feb 2018, 06:05

I watch some of it, Priscilla.  Mostly enjoy the figure skating.  Such grace and beauty.  We (NZ, I mean) have only won one medal in the winter Olympics and that was in 1992, when Annalise Coberger won a silver in some sort of skiing.  We had hopes for this one but so far no joy, as far as I know.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Mon 12 Feb 2018, 12:05

I'm not interested but I was intrigued to see that the Netherlands is doing rather well for medals. While I know they have been skating for centuries on the frozen canals and polders, the country doesn't have any mountains at all: half the land is no higher than a metre above sea level and the highest point, Vaalserberg, at 322m, is an otherwise undistinguished wooded hill on the border with Germany and Belgium. So I guess the medals are in skating things rather than skiing.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Tue 13 Feb 2018, 18:15

@Temperance wrote:
Hope Paul and Nielsen(?) are both feeling a little better today.

I wonder if ferval is poorly too? She has not been around for ages.

A glass of Sanatagen Tonic Wine for all Res Hissers who are under the weather.

 
Temperance and all other companions, just back from hospital today. On the day Tempernace started her appreciated wishes I was in the morning  on my way to the emergency. Again the same as last year in July, but not that bad: an infection on the urine tracks and with high fever: 38.2 centigrade. Because of the transplant we have to take drugs to surpress our defence system. So we can catch easier virusses and bacteria...it was a bacteria...

I hope Temperance and the companions that I will be in due time back as the "normal" Paul to contribute as usual.

PS: With "normal" Paul, I mean it in both sences, in fact the one you are used to Wink ...

PPS: Don't expect elaborated messages from me in the first days...have to become used to the daily trends of before....

Kind regards to all from Paul.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Tue 13 Feb 2018, 19:32

Paul, ik hoop dat je snel herstelt.

Beterschap.

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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Tue 13 Feb 2018, 22:01

Paul,

 ik haak even in met Melesmeles  en wens je een  spoedige beterschap.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Wed 14 Feb 2018, 08:37

Do hope you feel back to "normal" soon, Paul! Sorry I cannot say it in the Flemish tongue, but keep warm and safe - I believe there is a lot of snowy weather heading your way over there in Euroland. You will soon have all those nasty, opportunistic bacteria beasties on the run.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Wed 14 Feb 2018, 22:16

@Temperance wrote:
Do hope you feel back to "normal" soon, Paul! Sorry I cannot say it in the Flemish tongue, but keep warm and safe - I believe there is a lot of snowy weather heading your way over there in Euroland. You will soon have all those nasty, opportunistic bacteria beasties on the run.

Thank you all for your kind replies...and I will try to do as you say, dear Temperance.

Kind regards to all, Paul.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Sat 17 Feb 2018, 18:14

I hope you are keeping well, Paul.  My laptop wouldn't boot up on Thursday so I took it to a shop which does computer repairs (as well as selling 'em) in my town.  I asked them to load my data on to a hard drive I provided to them just in case they had to override the main hard drive. I think they have reloaded the operating system.  Anyway it is working again even if I am £65 down in my piggy bank and the ExpressScribe (I have the paid for version so I can listen to  the DS2 sound files when I type).  So I've been off res hist for a couple of days.  I see them there Downing Street kitties have been at it again.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Sat 17 Feb 2018, 20:55

@LadyinRetirement wrote:
I hope you are keeping well, Paul.  My laptop wouldn't boot up on Thursday so I took it to a shop which does computer repairs (as well as selling 'em) in my town.  I asked them to load my data on to a hard drive I provided to them just in case they had to override the main hard drive. I think they have reloaded the operating system.  Anyway it is working again even if I am £65 down in my piggy bank and the ExpressScribe (I have the paid for version so I can listen to  the DS2 sound files when I type).  So I've been off res hist for a couple of days.  I see them there Downing Street kitties have been at it again.


Lady in retirement,

thank you for thinking at me, it's very kind of you. I am still tired from doing nothing. And en plus a heavy cold since nearly a month. Was this morning at the doctor (general practician) and he said it was again a sepsis on the urinary tracts as in July the year before. All to do with the surpressed resistance because of the drugs against the donor kidney rejection. I will to be careful when on holidays to warn the clinic, when I have again a sepsis, about my special condition and to take immediately contact with my clinic in Belgium.

As soon as I have a bit more energy I will start my spy thread especially for Dirk Marinus.

Kind regards to you and everyone from Paul.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Sun 18 Feb 2018, 14:56

Take care Paul and looking forward to the spy thread!

@Meles meles wrote:
I'm not interested but I was intrigued to see that the Netherlands is doing rather well for medals. While I know they have been skating for centuries on the frozen canals and polders, the country doesn't have any mountains at all: half the land is no higher than a metre above sea level and the highest point, Vaalserberg, at 322m, is an otherwise undistinguished wooded hill on the border with Germany and Belgium. So I guess the medals are in skating things rather than skiing.

The BBC was yesterday listing off GB's 11 gold medals won over the decades at the Winter Olympics. It mentioned that GB beat Canada in the final of the Men's Ice Hockey tournament at Garmische-Partenkirchen in 1936. What they failed to mention was that everyone on the rink that day was Canadian. The 'Great Britain' team that year was actually the Canada A side who managed to beat the First Team thus cocking a snook at the Canadian selectors.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Sun 18 Feb 2018, 16:39

I never knew that Vizzer (i.e. that in 1936 the G.B. team that won were Canadian).  I remember there being some media interest back in the day about "Eddie the Eagle" who came last in everything - living embodiment of the idea that it's the taking part that is important rather than winning, I guess.  There was a British lad who actually won something at the same games as Eddie the Eagle didn't (win anything) but the press seemed to make more fuss over Eddie.

A lot of us seem to be experiencing a little less spring in our step at present.  I think I've slowed down rather ever since I was whisked into hospital for the blood transfusion 17 months ago though of course I am getting older every day.  I know it may seem that I like "history light" but I have been known to read hefty tomes though not so much recently.

One book which was not so heavy that I read recently was a whodunnit set in the 1660s.  It mentioned St Paul's Cathedral (the pre-Great Fire of London one) as having been in bad repair and there having been some difference of opinion among people at the time as to whether the building should one restored or knocked down and rebuilt.  Does anyone know if that was in fact the case?  (Maybe I can find a book [non-fiction] at my local library on the subject though hopefully not too hefty).  I read Harrison Ainsworth's "Old St Paul's" more years ago than I care to remember though I don't recall the book awfully well.  I think I neither loved not hated it.  Probably wasn't any more historically accurate than his book about Dick Turpin.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Sun 18 Feb 2018, 18:07

Restoration work was started on Old St Paul's by Indigo Jones in the 1630s and he completed a new classical-style colonnaded west front before all the work got stopped by the Civil War. With Charles II back on the throne, repair work was started again by Christopher Wren, and he was in the midst of this work when it was all destroyed by the Great Fire (wasn't it mentioned at the time, perhaps by Pepys, how the cathedral might even then have escaped the fire had not the flames gone up the wooden scaffolding that was in place for the repair works, and so got a hold in the wooden beams of the roof?). I seem to remember, well before the fire, there were some - including both Indigo Jones and Christopher Wren who were doubtless keen to get the commission - who argued that it would be cheaper to pull it all down and rebuild rather than keep patching it up. In the event the fire of 1666 rather decided the matter.

This was Indigo Jones' new west front which he built before the Civil War. The result was a bit of a mish-mash of a new style tacked onto the old, and I'm sure he'd have liked to have rebuilt the whole thing in a "modern" classical style. The cathedral had already had the tall medieval spire removed after it had caught fire and collapsed in 1561, and it was the shoddy repairs to the roof after that incident that were largely to blame for the poor state of the cathedral structure in the 17th century.



In the late 1500s/early 1600s the whole St Paul's area seems to have been rather insalubrious. There were booths, sheds and lean-tos built right up against the cathedral walls (many were businesses of the printers of scurrilous broadsheets, who had to use temporary premises as they were continually being raided and shut down); the area, including even the church itself, was frequented by street-sellers, beggars and prostitutes; and the chuchyard was plagued by ferocious feral dogs.


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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Mon 19 Feb 2018, 13:30

Oh, thanks for that info, MM.

Has anybody on Res Hist ever done anything about history that was anachronistic?  When I was at school some of us were given tasks to do small booklets on various scientists.  I was given Archimedes and I think the facts were basically okay (as long as the facts as given in the history books I consulted were correct) but I drew him in the bath (no naughty bits showing) and put him in a 1930s enamel bath like we had in our house and not in a sunken Greek one.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Mon 19 Feb 2018, 21:52

@Vizzer wrote:
Take care Paul and looking forward to the spy thread!


Vizzer and all,

thank for you kind words. But still fighting the bacteria of the sepsys with antibiotica...no fever, but no energy to do whatever...the general practician has said to take rest until I am a bit recovered...

Kind regards from Paul.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Wed 21 Feb 2018, 13:45

You need another glass or two of a cheering Tonic Wine, Paul - none of this Wine Jelly nonsense. What on earth was wine jelly doing in a bottle rather than a jar?








Seriously, really hope you are back on your feet soon. Do take care of yourself: these bacterial infections can be really debilitating.
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Wed 21 Feb 2018, 20:22

Temperance,

as usual reading your heart warming "publications" with a feeling of great comfort...
Thanks for the leaflet...

Kind regards from Paul, already mentally recovering from reading your empathetic message...
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Last night I lurked on a site called "Penny-Arcade" (for gamers I suppose) and a forum called "Choose Your Own (Conspiracy Theories)".  These were - certainly for the most part - debunkers (i.e. normal people not conspiracy nuts).  One person had said he had been speaking to a 9/11 "truther" and explaining that he had been there and seen it happen and that he still had flashbacks of people jumping to their deaths from windows.  The "truther" apparently asked him how much the Government were paying him to say that and he thumped said truther.  Somebody mentioned Buzz Aldrin, the astronaut, punching a "moon hoax" conspiracy nut who had been pestering him; I hadn't known about him throwing the punch before.

The questioning part of me wonders why folk come up with these sometimes bizarre theories.  Anyway, somebody had come up with what seemed to me a plausible explanation for the "lizard people" theory.  As I say the explanation comes not from me but from someone called "The Ender" on Penny-Arcade (hope it's alright for me to post it without having asked The Ender.  The Ender was writing in response to someone called "Priest" so the first part of the quote about reptiles under Colorado is by priest with the part about the scam in Los Angeles coming from The Ender.

"   »
Ok. So I'm here in this thread because apparently I just found out that there are allegedly lizard people living under my fair state.
   
        
         Presumably the people who fear these alleged lizard-people avoid Colorado because that would put them in proximity of reptilian influence, hence why I have never heard of this before.
        
         Could someone give me the SparkNotes version of this conspiracy? I'm not really comfortable typing in "Lizard Conspiracy" into Google, as diving head-first into crazy is a sure way to become so yourself. Are we talking the Lizard-People in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy that keep getting voted into power? Or are we talking about another whole level of batshit insanity here?


         The genesis for the modern mythos is a drawing made by a man named Warren Shufelt in the 1930s:
        
        
        
         Shufelt used what amounted to a glorified dowsing rod to 'detect' subterranean caverns beneath Los Angeles, which he believed /claimed were encrusted with gold. Shufelt invented a native American Hopi chief, whom he called L. Macklin, and via this proxy fabricated an 'old Hopi legend' about lizard people who dug-out great underground cities and stored vast sums of precious metals / gems within.
        
         It was a scam to try and get money from investors to 'explore' the non-existent caverns, with the investors supposedly getting a share of the gold in return.
        
        
                  This story has been carried forward & evolved over the decades to today's contemporary David Icke story, which involves shape-shifting 'Reptoids' who control all major governments, all major media entities and all major businesses. But! There is a silver lining! The Reptoids keep us safe from the Grey invasion, and are the only reason that so few people are abducted and anal probed each year. 

The Ender on May 2014
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PostSubject: Re: The Tumbleweed Suite   Yesterday at 09:12

I still haven't found out why the theory that the Illuminati have some gender reversal programme in motion - and our famous people and the royal family are deemed to be the opposite gender to how they present - occurred but there has been some suggestion that Michelle Obama appeared on a TV show and there was a bit of a bulge in her slacks.  Actually, I have seen her dancing and I think it could have been a panty liner come loose.  I have kept off the gender reversal videos though - actually now that I can at least use my right arm even if it's achy I have stuff to catch up on.
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