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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Fri 26 Jan 2018, 19:54

@Gilgamesh of Uruk wrote:
Just had a look at "View the whole list" on the home page. Where do they get the positions from - because they seem to be nonsense

Gil, didn't find "view the whole list" on the home page...
Even after an intensive search Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Fri 26 Jan 2018, 22:58

Yes, well you wouldn't find it there, Paul - it is actually on "recent activity". Sorry to mislead you.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Sat 27 Jan 2018, 10:16

That has always been nonsense - it shows primarily the "landing page" with which a unique IP address has accessed the site within the last five or so minutes (obtained through periodic spot-checking by Forumotion's automated server access administration tools). It does not show any navigation through the site by them, and cannot be relied upon as a valid count of people actually interacting with the site in real-time. It doesn't distinguish either between real people and bots. In other words it serves no practical purpose other than as a very general indicator of activity and there is absolutely no reason why anyone would want to view that list as it stands. I suppose if the site was a hugely popular entity being accessed by millions the patterns of access might have more meaning for administrators as an aid to designing the site and its options, but even then I cannot see why members would be invited to view them at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Wed 31 Jan 2018, 10:43

I haven't done this in a while so thought you may be interested. Google have devised a more accurate way of reporting actual people actually opening pages from this site due to Google searches. Here's the latest aggregated report running from most popular at the top, and I think you'll be surprised by the subjects which most consistently draw people in to read stuff here!

("Impressions" means when a page from the site showed up after someone did a Google search but they didn't then click to open it. "Page Title" is the Forumotion name for the page so forgive the formatting).

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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Wed 31 Jan 2018, 12:01

Interesting reminder of some of the topics that have been discussed here, many of which I had completely forgotten. Interesting also that some of the topics that have attracted the most google search interest (even allowing for recent ones that haven't been around for that long) are sometimes those that haven't been discussed at length, and visa versa. It also occurs to me that if posts are to attract searches then they need to use key words that searchers might employ: so rather than using clever word-play in the title, it really needs to be succinct and as near to what one might type when conducting a search for information if it is to be found. I'll bear that it mind as I'm sometimes guilty of that myself, eg 'dish of the day' would probably get more search hits if it was entitled 'food in history', or something like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Wed 31 Jan 2018, 12:21

And if ever a thread was worth a wider viewing it is yours, MM. - Historical Cookery, Food and Dishes of the Day might get attention - just a suggestion.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Wed 31 Jan 2018, 12:40

@Meles meles wrote:
... It also occurs to me that if posts are to attract searches then they need to use key words that searchers might employ: so rather than using clever word-play in the title...

Yes, this is true. But Google also "crawls" pages - ie. goes through the entire content of a page and registers certain nouns, pronouns, verbs etc - and these will also be used to present results to a search-engine user. People may not have noticed but Forumotion made a "tag" method available a while back whereby one can basically highlight text within a post (yours or anyone else's as far as I remember) that you consider these bot crawlers (what a lovely image that doesn't conjure up) should especially take note of. Once "tagged" then these words/phrases/expressions can be used for all sorts of search functions from inside and outside the site.

I'll check it out further but I think when I experimented with the facility I wasn't too impressed with the way it highlighted the chosen content with hashtags etc. Or maybe I'm wrong. In any case we can give it a go (if I wasn't dreaming it and it really exists).
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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Mon 19 Feb 2018, 08:08

I got an electronic newsletter from Res Historica last night - I assume that's your doing Nordmann. Good idea, if it goes out to the email addresses of everyone who's registered as a member, it might prompt some long lost friends to reappear.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Mon 19 Feb 2018, 08:41

I sent nothing, MM. Can you send me a copy of the newsletter via the site e-mail thingy so I can see what it was and where it originated? It could be some gimmick that Forumotion have implemented or it could be something worse. Sounds worrying to be honest ...
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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Mon 19 Feb 2018, 10:03

Thanks MM, I got your mail.

Apparently this is a "feature" started by Forumotion on 31st January without notifying people in advance (it was mentioned on their own main discussion forum but not sent out as a notice to admins). I have found the setting involved on our own admin panels and turned it off as it is a blatant invitation for the site to be blacklisted by people's anti-spam programs. I'll have a look at it and see if it's worth having.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical adjustments / announcements / assistance   Mon 19 Feb 2018, 10:18

".... it is a blatant invitation for the site to be blacklisted by people's anti-spam programs."

Ah yes, I hadn't thought of that ... and it's of no interest to me, nor I imagine other regulars, as we already know what's been recently posted.
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