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PostSubject: Google Street View and World War Two   Tue 20 May 2014, 13:30

From today's Guardian newspaper an interesting montage of "then and now" images combining contemporary Google Street Views with photographs from the Second World War in London, Berlin, Hiroshima and Paris, amongst others.

Second world war in Google Street View


Balham - where 70 people died on October 14th 1940 when their air raid shelter was flooded from a bombed water main.
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PostSubject: Re: Google Street View and World War Two   Tue 20 May 2014, 14:12

Thanks for those Nord. With modern picture editing software and the increasing availability of photos on-line, these sort of pictures, marrying recent views with old, are becoming very popular. I wonder how soon it will be before someone starts doing similar things with old, pre-photography engravings and paintings? (Actually I'm pretty sure someone already has).

But just a thought regarding Google Earth images ... when they are upgraded, are the old ones archived for posterity, or are they lost? They would be an invaluable source for future historians. And they already have quite a souvenir function. The last time I looked Google Earth's view of my parents' house clearly showed Dad's red Fiesta parked in the drive and his beloved greenhouse at the bottom of the garden. But he died in 2005 and I know both of these no longer exist. And if it hasn't already been updated I'm sure the relevant image will be changed very soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Google Street View and World War Two   Tue 20 May 2014, 14:47

I'm a sucker for these "then and now" montages, especially when they're done well.

This site Sepia Town was an attempt to build a comprehensive database marrying old images with contemporary Google Street Views. It seems to have run out of steam since its inception in 2010 unfortunately, though it still has some quite successful comparisons.

I am sure with the older Google earth images etc that they are "saved" in some manner in some nebulous realm of the interwebby thing when replaced in the application, but you can always save the image yourself locally too I suppose if it's a scene you really would like to keep.
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PostSubject: Re: Google Street View and World War Two   Wed 21 May 2014, 14:22

Someone recently did some really good ones of the town where I was brought up. Apparently they had terrible trouble getting exactly the same vantage point to match the old photos. All the old nineteenth century ones, which were taken by the same local photographer, seemed to all have been taken from about ten feet above both the old and new street level.

After a bit of discussion on a local online forum it emerged that nearly all the original photos were taken from outside pubs, and that the photographer was from local brewing family. And so it seems highly likely that he used to cadge a lift on the brewery cart and take his photos from the high-up position it offered whilst it was legitimately stopped in the middle of the street delivering beer barrels to the town's pubs.

To get the same shots the modern photographer had to use a stepladder, and not only have the support and assistance of numerous local shops and businesses, but also that of the council and the police, since what were once just bustling parochial streets are now major transport routes.
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PostSubject: Re: Google Street View and World War Two   Fri 23 May 2014, 23:29

@Meles meles wrote:
I wonder how soon it will be before someone starts doing similar things with old, pre-photography engravings and paintings? (Actually I'm pretty sure someone already has).

An obvious one this - Flatford Mill (2007) combined with The Hay Wain (1821):

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PostSubject: Re: Google Street View and World War Two   Thu 05 Jun 2014, 15:51

Not quite the same thing but .... in the little port of Collioure, just down the road from me, there's a Fauvism Art Trail.
 
At the beginning of the 20th century Collioure was suffering from the collapse of its two principal businesses: fishing and wine, so it was a cheap Mediterranean holiday destination for those who couldn't afford the Côte d'Azure. Henri Matisse first came to Collioure because he was looking to escape the Parisian summer and he needed cheap lodgings for his wife, two little boys and his older daughter (by a former mistress). He was joined there by André Derain. Both artists were impressed by the quality of the light and the colour ... this short stretch of coast is unique in being the only east-facing coastline in France. They were followed by other artists and Collioure soon became the centre of the so-called fauvism movement. Today the formerly impoverished fishing village is a chic resort, its ancient winding streets full of artists' studios and galleries, its medieval harbour full of luxury yachts, and its castle and harbour walls crammed with amateur painters desparately trying to create their own masterpieces.
 
Around the town, there are now over twenty reproductions of the works of Matisse, Derain and others, displayed where the artists perched their easels, along with mounted metal picture frames through which you can also 'frame' the exact scene that these painters saw:
 

 

 
Matisse, Vue de Collioure - L'eglise, 1905.
 
 

 
Derain, Le Phare de Collioure, 1905.
 
..... and of course one can also view many of the original paintings in the local Musées d'Art Moderne, either in Collioure itself, or at Cérèt about 30 mins inland.
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